Ken O'Keefe - On Being a World Citizen

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America FIRST! May 22, 2011 9:09 am (Pacific time)

Tim, You should do a story on the Israeli spies in the U.S.

Does anyone think this is paranoia? The mall kiosks being used by Israeli spies is very very real. Watch the news reports linked below. Mossad is all over the U.S. and we are doing nothing about it.

“This Story no Longer Exists”

In late 2000 and throughout 2001, over 200 Israelis were arrested for suspected espionage. This was the largest spyring ever uncovered in the United States. These suspected spies targeted or penetrated Military bases, DEA, FBI, Secret Service, ATF, U.S. Customs, IRS, INS, EPA, Interior Dept., U.S. Marshal’s Service, various U.S. Attorneys Offices, Secret government offices, and unlisted private homes of law enforcement/intelligence officers.

Most of the suspects served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept and/or explosive ordinance units.

Dozens of Israelis were arrested in American mall kiosks selling toys, acting as a front for a spying operation. Some were posing as Art students. 60 detained suspects worked for the Israeli company AMDOCS which provides most directory assistance calls and almost all call records and billings services for the U.S.

At least ninety Israelis were arrested for spying after 9/11 and we know that some of them were detained in connection to the September 11th attacks.

Following 9/11, over 60 Israelis were detained either under the Patriot Anti-Terrorism Act or for immigration violations. Some were active Israeli military personnel. A number of them failed polygraph examinations when questioned about their surveillance activities.

This was the biggest spy scandal in our country’s history, and right on the heels of 9/11. Yet most of us did not hear this news because the mainstream press refused to publicize this story. The exception was Carl Cameron of Fox News channel, his excellent four-part investigative series covered most aspects of the allegations against Israel.

Fox News soon came under immense pressure from the zionists who own the network, and retracted the story. They even removed the written transcript from the Fox News Channel web page, replacing the news report with the following orwellian message: This story no longer exists.

Fortunately, someone saved a digital copy of the series before the story disappeared, and the video is still available on the internet. Here is Cameron’s four part series on the Israeli spy ring scandal. Notice however that the reporters will not go so far as to actually accuse Israel of complicity in the September 11th attacks.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhAEjSQghj8

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENwze5owq4w

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwckJoP7-wg

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Anonymous May 13, 2011 11:23 am (Pacific time)

There were at least 30 Israelis working among two kiosks that I know of. One was selling "wind spinners" at the International Marketplace in Waikiki and the other was at a "Dead Sea Salt Scrub" kiosk at the Ala Moana Shopping Center (bottom level). I was drinking with one of the Israelis who indicated that they were in the U.S. among many more "groups" (he struggled to find the right word). He indicated that they were all ex-military and that they were a special group. He did not want to give any details, and I think he wished he had not even said that, once it leaked out. He was about 25. I never thought much about it, until I read about the Mossad agent that are supposedly all around the world waiting to to the bidding of the Israeli government. I really do think that they are out to cause problems within our borders. I had never seen Israelis living in the U.S. before. It made an impression on be due to the fact that there were so many in an organized group selling at kiosks and that they could NEVER be generating enough $$$ for the entire group to live in Honolulu (given the extremely high costs there.) The only other time I had met an Israeli was in the military when they were in the U.S. to train with out modern equipment that we were selling them.

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Anonymous May 12, 2011 12:53 pm (Pacific time)

I made a comment about Israelis in Honolulu who were sent there by the government and were waiting to be told what to do. The comment was deleted, but in light of eileen fleming's 6:14 am comment, perhaps someone should start to listen to us?!

Editor: I don't recall seeing your comment, so please resubmit.

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Mary Rizzo May 11, 2011 5:25 pm (Pacific time)

tim, to be brief, you talk about a military story? I took the stuff from his own bio! Second: you spread info regarding the kidnapping that wasn't that was PATENTLY false, created panic and contradicted itself from left to right! I analysed the event, saw there was not even any contract, saw that Ken refused to leave when 500 mts from the shore, saw that he tried to get NATO involved or at least the Libyan Navy, when this would be an act of violation of international law when the ship was already being communicated to all bases and orders were given to bring it home. there was no emergency and no need for a foreign navy to board in international waters in peacetime just because someone on board did not get his way! I mean, if you are unable to understand that this kind of thing is WRONG and damaging for Palestine, then I think there is no hope for you!

why attribute observations to "jealousy". We are not in middle school any longer and don't project your own emotional reading of events onto the strictly analytical and quite plain and clear things that are stressed as being problematic.

you are indeed Pimping ken, i mean, all these vanity pieces are getting comical and at least now he has to admit that one of his stories is untrue and he has used it for a long time as a sort of badge... so i suppose the pimping is necessary.

I do Not believe that Vik's historical translator (who did his articles, blog and book until she had to stop due to maternity) even knows you! and of course, i was not putting you down because you didn't know Vik longer than Italians would. He's been reporting in Italian and is well-known here, so naturally most others in the West would not have know him unless they spoke Italian.

MY advice to you: learn to accept that people who love and work for Palestine are going to be critical of things and have the sacrosanct right to do so as long as they support freedom and that includes the freedom to express their views, critiques as long as they are backed by evidence, and to point out especially things that make the Westerner heroic and thus do not maintain the primacy and importance of the Palestinians always setting and establishing their own agenda. Shoving them alongside Israel only demonstrates that you have a lot to still learn about the nature of the struggle and how if we do not keep vigilant and always remain honest, we can be accused of REALLY being zionists. When you do these stupid kinds of comments, I really do feel for you and your grappling for an argument!

Tim King: OK mary, I may come back and address more of this tomorrow, I'm saddened by this infighting and don't buy much of what you say.  I don't think a person has to be a Marine to understand the concept of unity, Vik understood it better than almost anyone else, so I don't really understand where this breaks down in your train of thought.  Like I said, maybe more tomorrow, this is tiring and aggravating. 

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Anonymous May 11, 2011 1:08 pm (Pacific time)

Tim King: Mary, Ken clearly explains in this video how he renounced citizenship, and he shows the documents, which I have copies of, and the US didn't accept it or allow his passage without a US passport.

M: yeah, I too applied for a Fulbright back in the 80s, it was denied but I don't go around calling myself a Fulbright Scholar! There is a world of difference between claiming that one burns his passport and no longer recognises his own citizenship and then files to get a new one (I don't think they give them out at gunpoint, one does have to sign for that) and actually uses it. It is a lie he's been using for some reason that still escapes me! I can't see what good it would do to keep on insisting it was a big deal when ... it actually isn't even a FACT! We caught him out on it and after many denials, he owns up!

(TK new response: Mary, before going on, since it is an established fact that Ken is doing wonderful things over there, and has massive support in Gaza, and that's what we're talking about- Gaza- how does it make sense to carry on this charade of attacking our hard working guy on the ground living this every day?) 

T. Do you think people don't see through these little Internet interrogations of yours? Attacking Ken is attacking the Palestinian cause; there is no other way to put it.

M: do you realise how colonialist and orientalist you even sound? That Ken now personifies the cause? This is obscene actually, and throughout the history of Politics, including that of the politics of "activist intervention" there is a common and normal process of critique and it has to be based upon truthful and reliable accounting of facts and of unconditional support of the people who one claims to sustain either in a concrete or moral way. To identify the struggle of a people with one single American individual is completely bizarre, and yes, people see through that too, mr. Tim!

(TK new response: But have you heard of slander?  How about libel?  That is my point.  If you were working from facts rather than emotion, you would understand how baseless everything you have said, is.  I am not going to repeat details, but you even made up a story before about his military past.  Just admit that you don't like anyone who ever wore a uniform in the service of their country.  I say Ken personifies the cause )

T: It makes no sense and since all you have done in recent months (and people in Gaza know this) is live to bring him down, how can anyone possibly think you back Palestine?

M: how would you know all I have done? As well as for Gaza, I probably have donated more money to people there than you have and have certainly translated and subtitled more of their work than you have, and probably posted more up by non Westerners as well! On the other hand, there is not only the Palestine struggle in my mind, as I am a Pan arabist and have been particularly concentrated on the other struggles and don't toot a horn about it, but from time to time publish about it and especially work with a whole new group of young people who are developing their blogging skills and breaking out into the scene to take their rightful place. Activism work sometimes requires a period of research and fresh contacts, which is where my energies have been. You are the one focused on Ken, because you have an obsession with him! So you project that on to others. It is silly, but you may grow out of it.

(TK new response: I didn't judge what you have done for the people of Gaza, this is about how you undermine what Ken does for the people of Gaza.)

T. He's not a peanut gallery spectator, Ken is on the ground, in the trenches, and his battles are not expressly waged toward the enemy because people like you bring on your sideshow distractions and allegations. But this is serious because some of the false allegations made recently toward him place his life in danger and that is unforgivable.

M: woah! so you would blame me for problems he would have on the ground! didn't think the report on his kidnapping that wasn't had such an impact! Maybe he gives me too much credit, certainly, he should get a grip and a reality check there!

(TK new response: You went up one side of Ken and down the other with your 'novel' and it was all to hurt his credibility, create questions that do not otherwise exist, and worse.  You willfully attacked him and created a distraction that prevented hours and days of activism for Palestine from taking place.  And Ken didn't ask for any of the articles in his defence to be written, we all just go to it like in a natural order.)

T: Again, people see through this.

M: the mob mentality of the flying monkeys does not work for me to frighten me or anything. I honestly have seen struggles and things far worse than some people who hero worship and want to defend their hero from a writer in Italy possibly saying something that would tarnish his image! I believe in Absolute freedom and freedom to not be bullied by the techniques of ostracism or the gang mentality that you seem to think has some importance in political discourse. If someone has something to complain about they take the actual issues i bring up and say where they are wrong, deal with evidence and facts, not just "you don't like our hero, you are a bitch and bad bad person!" It is a bit more complex than all of that! The labelling game is for amateurs, isn't it?

(TK new response: Hero worship, that is so ridiculous Mary.  You and a couple of others, maybe only one person, have done this out of jealousy, that is the popular theory.  But this isn't about who the bigger hero is, it is about your seeking to discredit someone who is highly instrumental, who always shows up in media because he's so damned good, so well versed and intelligent.  That is why people like myself back Ken, not your stupid 'hero worship' thing.   When somebody is really getting things done, they deserve credit.  Your entire attack on Ken, from concept to finished product, was unwarranted and unprecedented.  You are working as a tool of hasbara by doing it.)

T: You are also responding to a reader comment, I assume, rather than the article for the most part?

M: yes, partly, since your pimping article looks like a reprint, nothing new there to see but your admiration and pimping!

(TK new response: Pimping for Gaza?  Come on Mary, you so belittle the efforts of Vik and Rachel and Tom and so many others by saying such things.)

T: I know that absolutely nothing will change your position with this. As far as your work and your 'denouncements', do you recall your reaction to my article on Hamas a year or so ago? You hated the fact that I used fairness, and look at how this turned out, Hamas was the group trying to save Vik's life at the last minute. Hamas is who honored Vik in Gaza along with Ken and so many thousands of people who knew and loved him.

M: i have NO idea WHAT you are talking about! I happen to be someone who wrote a widely circulated piece on Hamas translated in 9 languages and even received an invitation to meet members of the PLC who wanted to thank me for the article. They also said that my appeal on a Press TV programme for the liberation of the imprisoned members brought media attention and pressurre and 3 days later 8 were liberated. I have not met any of these people in person, but there has been positive and appreciative dialogue when appropriate on many occasions over the years! I have no idea in hell what you are talking about.

(TK response: Too bad you don't spend all of your time doing such things.)

T: And for the record, some of us didn't know Vik in person, but we at Salem-News were in contact with Vik for some time prior to this tragedy and he was contributing stories to Salem-News.com since Oct. 2010.

M: My best friend was his translator and he was contributing to us a while before that! But never mind, you knew him later than I did, it's normal, you're not italian. i just can't stand people using him when they did not know or even know about him. I don't see that kind of outpouring of attachment for Palestinians murdered, so it of course does tend to "stand out".

(TK: All I can say, again, is that Ken is helping the people of Gaza every day.  His role aboard the Mavi Marmara and that of those other brave volunteers led to the partial opening of Rafah and the UN Report and so many other things.  The mishap aboard the Greek ship was still about getting to Gaza.  And damn if he didn't get there.  So memorializing Vik is somehow bad?  Helping maintain his legacy is bad?  That is funny, because Vik's translator is also someone I work with, a wonderful person, and she has gone to great effort to help me have material on Vik's service in Rome, and many other elements.  It isn't proprietary Mary, nobody owns a public figure.  It is perverse that you suggest honoring Vik is a negative thing.  And this whole, "you're not Italian" line, what on earth is that?  Rome fell Mary, it is one big world today.)

T: My suggestion Mary, would have been a simple comment without slams toward Ken's hard work for the people of Gaza.

M: I comment about activism and our duties. It is a branch that has interested me for decades, critique is NORMAL and HEALTHY as is expecting accountability and honesty in our work and contacts. We can preach to the choir all we want and even make up the tune to suit them, but if we can't see when we are acting in ways that demonstrate we think we know better than Palestinians do what is good for them or even what they should aspire to, then we should really shut up and defend harp seals or whatever. Palestinians can speak for themselves, HONESTLY, and I know many who don't give me suggestions, because i don't presume to give them suggestions. Each one of us has to be involved in our own category and know our places.

T: We aren't here to promote this stupid business on facebook on these pages, I'm quite sure you know exactly who that comment referenced. I just hope and pray that it is not true,

M: if you can't see that it is about as stupid as it gets for you to believe for a moment that I would be the person you were in mega contact as a partner for months, the biggest cheerleader i have ever seen, then you are really needing to learn a thing or two about who you hang out with to be DUPED or think you are! But go on and believe it because it is funny watching all of you squirm that your own ranks (as wacko as they are) are fighting like dogs. I have nothing to do with your little lovers' spats!

(TK new response: Language translation alert!  Does anyone reading this comprehend what she is trying to say?)

T: because it doesn't make sense that you are after the world's premier activist for Gaza the way you are.

M: that's the spirit, all about the activist! why not say WHITE activist, because hell, I know GREAT great activists for Palestine and Gaza who have dedicated their existence to their people for decades and are more than premiere, they are heroes to admire, they don't want glory either! And we have outstanding relationships, and not all of them like Ken at all....

(TK new response: You bet Mary, 'white activist' is correct, and because of this terrible colonial culture that your nation (think Libya) and the UK and so many others including the US have created, white people tend to make the cut at places like The BBC and Ken has been seen by millions there repeatedly.  Sadly, he will be the first to say it is wrong, but that is the way the mainstream western media world works.  If there were more people like Ken in Gaza then there would be more coverage.  It isn't his doing, but he has been smart enough to realize how the gameboard is set up.  I'm afraid you and the Israeli's cheering your criticism of Ken know also.)

T: And finally, am I reading this clearly, that you do not deny being that person...i.e. the 'wench' that the comment referenced?

M: suuuuure, i'm her, aren't we identical in every way?

(TK new response: enough said)

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Mary Rizzo May 11, 2011 10:13 am (Pacific time)

who is the "wrench" on FB? Could it be with Ken's bosom buddy who is a nutcase all to herself so much so as to also expend enormous amounts of energy trying to say I was someone else and plugging for Ken as if he were god. Do you realise how juvenile this is? At any rate, let's say this, the day that a person believes he is exempt from criticism, critique or accountability for actions that are done and left for public scrutiny and will affect Palestinians because they don't apparently have a choice of who decides to be the paladin of their cause, it's the day he should retire. I am at least pleased that finally Ken is admitting what he denied so vehemently when we made the claim, that he travels on a US passport (meaning he's not renounced his citizenship, and uses their own document to even go there, both things that can be avoided and should if one considers the USA to be boycotted and has another citizenship). So, it was ok for him to lie I suppose, all for the cause... and how much was that lie milked! He complied with the USA easily enough so this proves how much talk is cheap.
by the way, why drag Vik into this? Of course I am extremely close friends with some of his closest friends and those who have been with him for many years, not just with those who flap his name around after he dies. as well, you should know that I had been working towards the denouncement of the site that was threatening to kill him and other ISMers back in 2009. If you want to drag a real person into your charges, it demonstrates the vapidness of your statements!

Tim King: Mary, Ken clearly explains in this video how he renounced citizenship, and he shows the documents, which I have copies of, and the US didn't accept it or allow his passage without a US passport.  Do you think people don't see through these little Internet interrogations of yours?  Attacking Ken is attacking the Palestinian cause; there is no other way to put it.  It makes no sense and since all you have done in recent months (and people in Gaza know this) is live to bring him down, how can anyone possibly think you back Palestine?  He's not a peanut gallery spectator, Ken is on the ground, in the trenches, and his battles are not expressly waged toward the enemy because people like you bring on your sideshow distractions and allegations. But this is serious because some of the false allegations made recently toward him place his life in danger and that is unforgivable. 

Again, people see through this.  You are also responding to a reader comment, I assume, rather than the article for the most part?  I know that absolutely nothing will change your position with this.  As far as your work and your 'denouncements', do you recall your reaction to my article on Hamas a year or so ago?  You hated the fact that I used fairness, and look at how this turned out, Hamas was the group trying to save Vik's life at the last minute.  Hamas is who honored Vik in Gaza along with Ken and so many thousands of people who knew and loved him.  And for the record, some of us didn't know Vik in person, but we at Salem-News were in contact with Vik for some time prior to this tragedy and he was contributing stories to Salem-News.com since Oct. 2010.

My suggestion Mary, would have been a simple comment without slams toward Ken's hard work for the people of Gaza.  We aren't here to promote this stupid business on facebook on these pages, I'm quite sure you know exactly who that comment referenced.  I just hope and pray that it is not true, because it doesn't make sense that you are after the world's premier activist for Gaza the way you are.  And finally, am I reading this clearly, that you do not deny being that person...i.e. the 'wench' that the comment referenced? 

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Ken's friend May 11, 2011 9:22 am (Pacific time)

So, has anyone figured out yet that Mary Rizzo is probably the wench on Facebook? What would Vik's friends in Rome have to say about this?

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MeMyself May 11, 2011 7:12 am (Pacific time)

There is a lot of misinformation here concerning the Mavi Marmara.

There were about a half dozen other boats in the flotilla. They were all bordered, taken to Israel, and had their cargo unloaded and inspected before being shipped onto Gaza - all without violence.

Tim King: I didn't say the Mavi was alone, in fact at least one of the other vessels you reference was sabotaged prior to departing.  The cargo WAS STOLEN and some junk food was allowed to pass to Gaza.  No good food, just crap.  The cement did not reach Gaza.

I saw the video of the boarding of the Mavi Marmara. The passengers were indeed armed. I saw the videos broadcasted prior to setting sail that were broadcasted on Arab TV. In these videos, passengers and crew members were singing songs about killing Jews.

Editor: They had a few sections of the ship's rails to defend themselves against submachine guns.  They were not there to kill Jews STUPID and that is the point.  Didn't you read the damned article? You are wasting my time and that of everyone else too. 

The IHH had been labeled as a terrorist organization by previous Turkish governments. They have never pulled the trigger themselves, but are known to have provided logistical support for those who have. They are known to have played a role in a failed terrorist attack on LA International Airport.

Editor: Lies, lies and more lies.  IHH is a wonderful group and they have never been labeled as 'terrorist' but that doesn't mean anything anyway.  Your terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Note that the de facto Hamas government has openly declared a genocidal war on Israel, as well as world Jewry. The Israeli blockade is therefore legal. Still Israel has been letting supplies into Gaza. Recently, the International Red Cross, never a friend to Israel, confirmed there is no humanitarian crises in Gaza.

Editor: Complete and total bullshit.  Hamas represents the people of Gaza,  The blockade is illegal and will soon be gone.  There is and has only been a trickle of supplies making it from Israel to Gaza.  

“Being a Palestine today is akin to being an African-American in the deep south during the Jim Crow years.” African-Americans should be insulted by this. I know of no African-American terrorist organization that attack civilians or used anti-tank weapons to shoot at school buses.

Editor: We're too busy being insulted by you.

If there is genocide in Gaza, then why is the population increasing? Where are the mass graves? The only calls for genocide I have heard are coming from the Arab side.  The writer admits there are terrorists in Gaza. The number is irrelevant. Israel has a right to protect its citizens. If the common people of Gaza suffer as a result, the terrorists are to blame.

Editor: They are the result of war, occupation, and murder from Israel, nothing more and nothing less.  Terrorism is a concept practically owned by Israel.

If Israel is an apartheid state, then why do all of Israel’s top universities have Arab students? Why does an Arab sit on Israel’s Supreme Court? Why did an Arab server as one of Israel’s Deputy Speakers of the Knesset? Why is it that when a Gazan cannot get medical treatment in Gaza, he can be treated for free at any one of Israel’s finest hospitals?

Editor: The Arab member of the Knesset was aboard the Mavi Marmara, didn't know that?  Israel is a bigoted state of apartheid and the philosophy is racist to the core.  God didn't give that land to Israel, it was stolen.  I know so many stories of people being shot in Gaza and not allowed across the border for treatment.  Next time your crap will be deleted, I hate this lying crap and having to spend time with these baseless charges.

This article is garbage.

Editor: Whatever

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Ex-marine May 11, 2011 9:17 am (Pacific time)

Love the video.
Makes me laugh. Ken calls himself a "citizen" of Hawaii.
Hawaii's part of the USA. Doesn't issue passports. Anyway he's all mobbed up with these terror idiots. Good luck leaving Gaza and entering a democratic country now.

Editor: You probably laugh at your own mother.  Hawaii was stolen from its people and was never supposed to be part of the US.  You need to put the bottle down and go to school and learn a few things, but then maybe they don't teach this period of American history in Israel?  You're the terrorist by the way. 

DJ: In the Congressional Record Mr. Thomas of Wyoming said:

"I find it highly fitting that we consider this legislation this year before we adjourn; 1993 marks the 100th anniversary of the overthrow of the sovereign Kingdom of Hawaii with the assistance of U.S. military forces." 

Read the entire piece here:  http://www.hawaii-nation.org/congrec-house.html 

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eileen fleming May 11, 2011 6:14 am (Pacific time)

ATTACK-DIVIDE-CONQUER is the oldest ‘game’ of empire.


"Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky wrote in 1990 that the Mossad has 7,000 sayanim [VOLUNTEERS!] on which it could rely on in London alone." -page XXX, "GUILT BY ASSOCIATION" by Jeff Gates

Meet the IDF Facebook-Twitter Commando
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142374

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Colli May 11, 2011 5:29 am (Pacific time)

It certainly appears that Israel is basing their treatment of Palestine and the Palestinians on a belief in Maslow's hierarchy i.e. The Palestinians will never achieve self actualization if they can be kept hungry enough and frightened enough. One has to wonder just what goodness could come out of Palestine if they were allowed to progress up the pyramid and achieve self actualization. What a crime against the world and the generations yet to come if the next Palestinian child to be killed by an Israeli bomb had the key to unlocking the cure for cancer in his or her unreachable future. The world does not seem to see that the taking of a human life is robbing the world of unknown potential. Even if the heinous act of killing an innocent and defenseless child does not bother someone, the loss of potential good certainly should. Watching the effort Ken has made and is making gives hope to many of us that human kindness is still alive and well. He is obviously a brave man with a good heart. Colli

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