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Feb-12-2013 19:21TweetFollow @OregonNews Pope Benedict Resigned to Avoid Arrest, Seizure of Church Wealth by EasterSalem-News.comDiplomatic Note was issued to Vatican just prior to his resignation.
(BRUSSELS ITCCS ) - (See this brand new article also: Exclusive Breaking News: Roman Church Admits the Pope's Guilt) The historically unprecedented resignation of Joseph Ratzinger as Pope this week was compelled by an upcoming action by a European government to issue an arrest warrant against Ratzinger and a public lien against Vatican property and assets by Easter. The ITCCS (International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State) Central Office in Brussels is compelled by Pope Benedict's sudden abdication to disclose the following details:
In closing, our Tribunal acknowledges that Pope Benedict's complicity in criminal activities of the Vatican Bank (IOR) was compelling his eventual dismissal by the highest officials of the Vatican. But according to our sources, Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone forced Joseph Ratzinger's resignation immediately, and in direct response to the diplomatic note concerning the arrest warrant that was issued to him by the said nation's government on February 4, 2013. We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking. Further bulletins on the events of the Easter Reclamation Campaign will be issued by our Office this week.
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caril March 11, 2013 8:35 am (Pacific time)
I'm not Catholic anymore for many years. But I just don't beleive it.
anon irl March 1, 2013 4:18 pm (Pacific time)
this article and their responses are exactly why the so many wars have been started because of religion. the traffickers and their accomplices deserve to answer for their crimes but arguing between each other will not help the victims find any peace. what will be will be. i was raised as a catholic but i believe that human kindness is the one religion that can not be questioned or corrupted. i we all did just one decent thing a day for a neighbour or family member then maybe the world wouldn't be in such a state of hatred. Surely any loving God of what ever form could only wish for that. God is not punishing us. we are punishing our selves. God whoever or whatever he is to u gave us all free will.
Ronald February 21, 2013 6:36 am (Pacific time)
How can anyone arest a serving head of state in his own state? HOAX
John February 18, 2013 8:20 pm (Pacific time)
Dear editer, You are not helping humanity. You are ushering in much deserved Devine punishment. We will see how smart you think you are on judgement day.
Bobo February 18, 2013 3:56 pm (Pacific time)
In response to Angeline who says everyone is a Satanist if they say negative about the Pope. It amazes me that when you read in the Bible about the Anti Christ and to use Ageline's description of how the Ant Christ will force people to follow it you could rightly swear that the POPE IS THE ANTI CHRIST due to his offices history of compelling people to follow the Catholic way. Not to mention that The POPE IS NOT LEADER OVER ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOD acoording to the Bible that is only Christ. So why does Angeline make such a comparison of the pope and Christ. You can tell a tree by it's fruit....what fruit has the Catholic tree produced? You'll keep reading about it in the news. Molesters and people who hide them. If it's a religion from God why do they act like it's just a church problem. God would have removed the whole organization to get to the last molester and liar that covered for them. Oh! He is doing that. Beware Catholic Church. You fell all ready but your end is coming next from God himself. Run from them Angeline.
bogus February 18, 2013 12:41 pm (Pacific time)
Dear Editor, Your CBC link of assests being seized is both an unrelated and OLD story from 2010
tutan_khamun February 17, 2013 11:09 pm (Pacific time)
It's clear that the bacteria resigned so the Vatican assets couldn't be seized if this is true. If this is a hoax, what's definitely not a hoax is that organized religion has been the greatest cancer afflicting humanity after capitalism. Catholicism in particular (and I was raised Catholic) has been the most dangerous and damaging death cult in history. Crusades, inquisitions, burnings, religious wars, persecution of women and gays, all remain unforgivable crimes against humanity. Now this. RATzinger not only knew about child rape, he knew about child trafficking with the specific purpose of satisfying these perv priests. Children were abducted from their families, imprisoned and raped. Have you checked your milk carton lately? The Vatican should be demolished and Catholicism discontinued. All religions should be banned.
jb February 17, 2013 5:45 pm (Pacific time)
Please tell me you realize that the ITCCS has no authority from any sovereign nation to hold court, issue warrants etc. This is Bogus and hurts the victims of clergy abuse because it brings derision upon those who are actually advocating for victims. And before anyone brings it up there is no sovereign "Republic of Kenata" nor a sovereign "Republic of Eurostate".
judgedredd February 17, 2013 4:25 pm (Pacific time)
I for one can only hope this is true justice at last for some of the sickening crimes commited by the church over hundreds of years. Selling the land and seizing the money held by this "organization" would go a long way to eradication of poverty.
RA February 17, 2013 4:13 pm (Pacific time)
The bullshit starts with the fact that the Vatican is a sovereign nation over which the EU has no authority. Even if this were true, there is no way the Holy See would just abide and surrender the Pope. If he were to be taken by force, the perpetrators will be in a world of shit and have over a billion infuriated catholics to face. So no. This is utter, utter, utter bullshit.
Angeline February 17, 2013 1:19 pm (Pacific time)
I find it absolutely fascinating that every accusation against the Church does not receive an "Editor's Note" contradicting anything... yet everything that does receive a response is responded to in a way that is arrogant and pretentious. Much like Satan, the Accuser. Why shouldn't I, the reader, think that the responses are from Satanists, rather than from "humanitarians"? I pity all of you who think that Jesus was a sinner, and who all opt to spread lies that Jesus was "punished by God because He did wrong". If you look at what happened to Christ, it was human hatred and greed and envy and pride and selfishness and fear that sentenced Jesus to death. The Apostles never forced anyone to worship Jesus - they invited, and the people came. Under the Antichrist (whose reign is coming very soon), it will be different - THAT MAN uses force, coercion, manipulation, threats, etc etc etc. You, who accuse Christ and the Church, will weep bitter tears of regret when you fall under him, the "rod of the Philistines" who will be broken by God. I will pray for your repentance before that time is passed. I hope you will listen then, because the promised Paradise in the union of Heaven and Earth would be lacking of you individual souls, for so many who love you, if you should refuse God's Hand of Mercy. God love you.
Mike de Fleuriot February 17, 2013 8:52 am (Pacific time)
Why has none of the Major news media picked up on this?
Brian February 17, 2013 6:14 am (Pacific time)
Damn, what a load of crap. Nice link to CBS World new, except it is CBC, a Canadian news outlet. Farse, false, fable.
Mike February 17, 2013 5:51 am (Pacific time)
Bunch of cr**p written by someone who has absolutly no grasp on how the EU, International Law and the Holy Roman Catholic Church functions. This plotline has more holes in it than Gouda cheese
DoctorSerizawa February 17, 2013 12:24 am (Pacific time)
Hoax. And when it doesn't come true, you can just pretend the mainstream media was in on the conspiracy, right?
Brenda February 16, 2013 5:00 pm (Pacific time)
Be it a true story or not, the fact of the matter is..the Catholic church HAS been hiding the abuse of children for years. And to continue to hide it behind the Vatican "walls" is not only deceitful to their followers but sends a message of hope to other molesters. Wake up and smell the coffee...child abuse is child abuse, whether its a priest or a school teacher and they should be held accountable.
p. la puce February 16, 2013 4:08 pm (Pacific time)
hoax is the wrong word false flag might be better .If in truth there is actully going to be an "Easter Reclamation Plan"it will be carried out by people who are understandably extremely angry at an institution which has so vilely betrayed and robbed them as well as planted perpetrators of incendiary violence.a la G2 in Toronto.but as an ad hoc org . it has no real teeth .And this proposed action is foolhardy at best and insane at the worst. it will only give a pretext for the boots to come down. and martial law to begin.let the endgames begin!Jesus said Watch and pray that you be not deceived.....for many will come in My name saying I am Christ....
gino February 16, 2013 3:54 pm (Pacific time)
submitted to snopes.com to see if it is true
r3mm4h February 16, 2013 3:09 pm (Pacific time)
Thank you.
Chris Petersen February 16, 2013 1:48 pm (Pacific time)
They need to shake down this organization and get to the bottom of what's going on. These allegations are credible from my limited understanding. I'm 100% against child trafficing I don't care how VIP the guy overseeing it is.
Michael February 16, 2013 6:26 am (Pacific time)
This is the biggest load of shit i have ever read The author of this bullshit really does not have a clue about how things work in Europe and the Vatican city.
1. europe is an extremely bureaucratic union of sovereign nations which does not have a overriding government of each nation like the us federal system.
2. the Vatican city is a sovereign state in its on rights which the pope is the head of state and is not part of the European Union. The only way the EU could arrest him and seize any of the Vatican cities wealth is by declaring war on it.
3. If somebody wanted to arrest Joseph Ratzinger they would be able to do this if he was to resign as pope but not if he stayed as pope. So why would you resign the position that protected you from prosecution.
This story is complete bullshit concocted by some half whit.
Stoney February 16, 2013 5:30 am (Pacific time)
Science, truth, enlightenment, and l February 15, 2013 11:46 pm (Pacific time) "All you religious people are willing to deny what the real truth is, if you are so indignatious to this reality why dont you send your children to the vatican?" I caught that clever pun on the name of the second Pope!
Bemkapeace February 16, 2013 2:24 am (Pacific time)
Sorry to Salem news of your source of information is itccs (founded on lies and malice) and you can say ""I was pleased when friends began advising of this MSM development on Facebook, here is the first: Vatican bank assets seized in Rome - World - CBC News. Check the date of the CBS News report ... and what was going on - as the action was later explained by the Italian government. STOP spreading lies and malice.
voicehint February 16, 2013 12:20 am (Pacific time)
what about the bread?
Jbradenhmm February 16, 2013 12:08 am (Pacific time)
It is now Saturday February 16, 2013, about three days after your post...
Editor: We were just discussing this, the mainstream sources press is now verifying all of it yet they can't even see our taillights, not that we enjoy breaking terrible stories, but we have been doing it for a long time. Kevin Annett and the people affiliated with ITCCS have been pushing toward this goal for a long time. He is a friend and a Salem-News writer and one of many we strongly believe in.
I was pleased when friends began advising of this MSM development on Facebook, here is the first:
Vatican bank assets seized in Rome - World - CBC News
Also this...
Pope Seeks Immunity Protection from Italian President - Stuart Wilde
And there are more.
crazy February 15, 2013 11:48 pm (Pacific time)
you are all f*cking nutts.
Editor: Please watch your language.
Science, truth, enlightenment, and l February 15, 2013 11:46 pm (Pacific time)
All you religious people are willing to deny what the real truth is, if you are so indignatious to this reality why dont you send your children to the vatican?
Papa Benny February 15, 2013 8:52 pm (Pacific time)
New Onion?
Hans February 15, 2013 6:51 pm (Pacific time)
Jesus is God in flesh to be able to die for us. God doesn't die, He had to appear as human. It's very simple and straight forward but people like to 'fiddle' with the Bible or even God and then they die and they can't do anything against it. All your better knowing is gone.......
JC February 15, 2013 5:19 pm (Pacific time)
This is a scam put on by the Salem organization.
Editor: Well that is original. This is a news release from Belgium, not Salem, and anyone who follows our news knows this has been a long time coming. ITCCS is extremely active and connected and unpopular with the diehard 'right or wrong' supporters of the Catholic religion, but it is not a scam, the role of the Pope however remains up for debate in terms of 'scams'. All we can say is "Demand responsibility".
jC February 15, 2013 5:16 pm (Pacific time)
This article is a scam!
Mike H February 15, 2013 3:42 pm (Pacific time)
Are you a real newspaper, publishing crap like this?
Editor: Yes Mike and it isn't crap. Sorry your religious sensibilities are offended.
Student of the Bible February 15, 2013 2:40 pm (Pacific time)
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD FOR IN GENESIS HE SAID "LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE AND CERTAINLY GOD WAS NOT TALKING TO HIMSELF. JESUS WAS WITH HIS FATHER AND HIS FATHER CREATED JESUS A VERY LONG TIME AGO EVEN BEFORE THE EARTH WAS FORMED. HIS FATHER ALSO CREATED ALL THE ANGELS AND EVEN THE ONE WHO TURNED HIMSELF INTO THE DEVIL. A THOROUGH STUDY OF THE SCRIPTURES WILL HELP YOU ALONG WITH GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT UNDERSTAND THIS. OUR FATHER SENT HIS SON TO EARTH TO BUY BACK WHAT ADAM LOST AND THAT IS ETERNAL LIFE HERE ON THE EARTH WHICH HE MADE MAN TO INHABIT. THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF SENDING HIS SON TO EARTH SINCE ADAM AND EVE SINNED AND BROUGHT ON DEATH. OUR FATHER DOES NOT WANT ANYONE TO DIE BUT ONLY THE DEVIL DOES FOR HE KNOWS HE HAS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME LEFT HERE ON EARTH TO TURN ONES AWAY FROM GOD. HE IS THE ONE RULING THE ENTIRE WORLD NOW AND UNTIL HE IS ABYSSED THERE WILL BE NO PEACE. PLEASE READ REV. CHAPTERS 12-14 AND ALSO READ REV. 21:1-5 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT SOON THERE WILL BE PEACE HERE ON EARTH AND EVEN DEATH WILL BE DONE AWAY WITH. ALSO READ PS. 37:9-11,29.
lilibeth February 15, 2013 2:10 pm (Pacific time)
Kevin Annet and others who are speaking on behalf of the victims have being attacked by those who prefer to put the welfare of their Church before the welfare of Children. Your evil words will not stop any of us from seeking Justice!
Rafael February 15, 2013 1:05 pm (Pacific time)
Why do people think pedophilia is only a Church's problem? It can happen everywhere..atheists, protestants, spiritualists, budhists.. C'mon people, dont be so hypocrites.. Btw im not saying thats ok.
NAFPS member February 15, 2013 12:28 pm (Pacific time)
Editor:
Kevin Annett is a hoaxer who has done enormous damage to Native causes by spreading crackpot conspiracy nonsense. No First Nations want anything to do with him.
Editor: Is this the pride and prejudice patrol again? Kevin has accomplished amazing things that the native community was not able to do and a select tiny number of people within that community express discontent because Kevin is a white man helping Native Americans. This is not a popularity contest, assaulting the character of a man who has successfully raised such awareness is extremely non-productive.
Tom February 15, 2013 12:05 pm (Pacific time)
itcc.org is run by a Canadian guy named Kevin D. Annett. He also runs a website called occupythevatican.com. The guy is an anti-Catholic crackpot.
Editor: The 'guy' is an extremely accomplished pastor and human rights advocate with a well demonstrated track record of helping human beings. Anyone who opposes Kevin is in essence standing for the sexual abuse of children. Kevin is a hero among heroes, he is one of our writers.
BabeMN February 15, 2013 9:52 am (Pacific time)
What I notice about this story, and all other stories saying basically the same thing, is that they come from the same source (ITCCS). Has anyone ever heard of them before? Is this an organization larger than one person? Does it have any credibility with any world government? Not that what is being said about the Pope is inaccurate; I cannot verify that one way or another. But I would think that responsible journalists would want to be certain of the single source's credibility before publishing this. I do believe that many church leaders have been abusive of those in their charge, whether children or adults, and the misogyny, secrecy, and mind-control of the Catholic church needs to be confronted and changed, by those who wish to remain affiliated with it. To those good Christians, I would suggest instead of defending the institution, live the teachings and example of Christ.
Ralph E. Stone February 15, 2013 8:19 am (Pacific time)
The Centre for Constitutional Rights, a New York-based non-profit legal group, requested an International Criminal Court inquiry on behalf of the Survivors Network, arguing that the global church has maintained a "long-standing and pervasive system of sexual violence" despite promises to swiftly oust predators. Now this is a more credible story. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/8760103/Pope-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity.html)
Newmie February 15, 2013 6:13 am (Pacific time)
To: earl geonanga, dude you really need to read 2 Samuel 7:12-14. It is talking about Davids son Solomom not Jesus. Solomom actually built the temple. It amazes me how Gods word can be so twisted.Jesus is Lord and some day every tongue will confess this truth.I pray that the veil of deception will be lifted from your eyes. You have built a theology around one passage of scripture that has been interpreted erroneously. I pray for you earl
George M February 14, 2013 5:02 pm (Pacific time)
Ok so post the diplomatic note.
eka February 14, 2013 5:00 pm (Pacific time)
You are deceiving people
Editor: That is a broad and undefined statement, we are not doing what you suggest.
Molly February 14, 2013 1:06 pm (Pacific time)
wow. How tragic it all is. And how hateful some of the post. I feel so sorry for the victims. I feel sorry for the Catholic Church as there are so many good christians in that church. @ Earl Geonanga, I believe you have got this wrong and are truly under satan's influence. I will pray for you to see the light.
B. Kulcher February 14, 2013 11:54 am (Pacific time)
Many r eligions teach that all humans are the children of god. Now that is really one disfunctional family!
Scientist of Planet Earth February 14, 2013 10:50 am (Pacific time)
God doesn't exist except in your only slightly creative imagination.
Paul Thompson February 14, 2013 9:15 am (Pacific time)
ITCC is NOT a government agency. Despite their desire to stop abuse, trafficking, etc., any "evidence" they obtained is based on heavy biased speculation. Until we're able to view the papers that the pope's butler had stolen, hearsay and speculation is all the public will have to go on. I end with a comment to Earl Geonanga's post: Dude, you really need to read your bible to get a better understanding, and even if you don't- please see a doctor! Your reasoning and theology is bizzare to say the least! "The religions MADE US worship Jesus?" Riiight! Also one more thing...God does hear the prayers of people over the world, but HE never takes away our free will and until we (as individuals and as a race) chose to stop killing ourselves, such tragic sins will continue.
Frank Furhter February 14, 2013 3:15 am (Pacific time)
You are all flaccid, shankerous prepuce
Fredivus Maximus X February 13, 2013 9:45 pm (Pacific time)
What a waste of good tinfoil... article and comments both. ;D
Bill Burks February 13, 2013 9:38 pm (Pacific time)
I believe that this story is credible, or at least oriented to finding the full facts, in a situation that stands out as unexpected, possessed of a sense of urgency, and surrounded by rumor. If this information as given, does hold water, we would all be served by being baptized with knowing the truth, to set us free,
Ryan February 13, 2013 9:14 pm (Pacific time)
Why did you guys post this? It seems to hurt your credibility and the credibility of the valid notion that his resignation was shady. You didn't post it because you consider it valid, because then you'd be stupid, and I doubt that is the case.
Bible-believer February 13, 2013 8:22 pm (Pacific time)
If this is true it places us at Revelation 17:16. However, do not be surprised because this will happen. The EU, NATO, and UN came to power by the Harlot and will turn on her and eat her flesh and burn her with fire!!!
Gerry Mc Dermott February 13, 2013 7:29 pm (Pacific time)
Complete rubbish.
John Tyrrell February 13, 2013 4:51 pm (Pacific time)
This is not a government agency, it's just a pressure group.
They have no power to issue Diplomatic Notes.
They have no power of arrest.
They have no power of seizure.
And no government in Europe is acting on their behalf.
It's just an attempt to grab attention USING the Pope's resignation - not CAUSING it.
Editor: Sir, if you search the history of ITCCS you will see a long road leading to this connection.I made the link live to keep it quick and simple, thank you for your comment.
Bryan Spacek February 13, 2013 3:55 pm (Pacific time)
I hope with all my being that this is true, and that the evil cult will finally be dealt with as the criminal organization it has always been.
DCsteve February 13, 2013 3:44 pm (Pacific time)
I thought this was a hoax initially too, but one small line in the official announcement at itcss.org makes me wonder. "[ITCCS] concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy." If they actually convinced some European country's court to issue an arrest warrant, this might have some legs. Which one of the current EU members might go along with this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_union#Member_states The former less religious east bloc states? Scandinavian countries with strong human rights traditions and virtually no Catholic presence? Greek Orthodox countries?
steve February 13, 2013 3:23 pm (Pacific time)
I sure hope it's true. They deserve it...crooks and baby rapers.It's possible they may be tried under the International RICO laws, which if they can should have been done years ago
Anonymous February 13, 2013 2:42 pm (Pacific time)
M.Brooks I would be interested to see your sources re: the FOX Network making intentionally misleading stories. I imagine all news sources from time to time get erroneous info out, but as long as they correct it in a timely manner, then that's good. I hear about allegations regarding FOX all the time, but it's usually from pretty shady sources. Regarding an arrest for the POPE, that is B.S. . Of course the Vatican is an actual "STATE", but misleading deceivers count on low information people to pass on their bogus stories. They generally suceed with those who do not follow professional cannons, and or have similar misinformation agendas. Bad people of low character.
Lucy1956 February 13, 2013 2:35 pm (Pacific time)
Well, "I" for one wouldn't weep..and I was raise RC and went to Church faithfully until the sex abuse scandals surfaced here in Newfooundland, Canada. I've always said since..."The Vatican needs to be SOLD to feed the WORLD!" And ANY self-respecting 'Catholic' who CONDONES the abuse of dear children is as BAD as those doing it...because MY God would NOT APPROVE! SO, yes, I am NOW a Spiritualist...and I no longer am loyal to a group of PEDOPHILES!
Annah February 13, 2013 1:37 pm (Pacific time)
This seems like conspiracy theory hogwash to me and I'm not even Catholic!
M. Brooks February 13, 2013 1:36 pm (Pacific time)
Check your resources and make sure that this is all true....You do not want to be like Faux (Fox) News. If all of this is in fact true, The FAITHFUL Catholics will not go against the Church Officials. Help will not come from the Faithful citizens and Clergy. Prayer will be rising up as incense to God asking for Divine intervention in these matters. Vatican City State is a Sovreign State, and they are not under any International Juridictions of any kind. Brussels, keep your dirty hands off of the New Pope in March. I call upon all Catholics to pray the Rosary for Divine Intervention starting now.
Editor: The subject is the rape and abuse of innocent small children, are you suggesting Catholics would willingly remain silent on these matters and allow the children to devoured? Are there any heroes left?
Roman J. Deutsch February 13, 2013 1:25 pm (Pacific time)
What is the nation that will issue the arrest warrant? And you should know that the lightning bolts that hit St. Peter Basillica was a sign from God and His Christ who I AM. I ask you to read this blog for it is My Truth. What happened to Me as a child at St. Paul Orphanage. www.lordlionjc.blogspot.com
angela Botha February 13, 2013 9:01 am (Pacific time)
what a lot of shit
Ralph E. Stone February 13, 2013 8:55 am (Pacific time)
I would like to know more about ITCCS. As I understand it, they are an ad hoc group with no official authority. I wonder the likelihood of the ITCCS to convince a court to indict and arrest Ratzinger.
earl geonanga February 13, 2013 5:48 am (Pacific time)
Good day
Re: http://itccs.org/2013/02/13/pope-benedict-resigned-to-avoid-arrest-seizure-of-church-wealth-by-easter/
In behalf of Teacher Erano Martin Evangelista of www.thename.ph
May i present to you an evidence that will truly prove that the Vatican- The Roman Catholic Church and all Religions had committed the greatest deception upon humanity and this is by making them believe that Jesus is a Son of God and was sent by God to die for our sins.
Please be informed that the real Jesus- descendant of King David, was NOT sent by God to be beaten for our sins but was punished by God with the floggings and beatings of men for his OWN wrongdoing- we did not know this because the apostles hid this truth from us by distorting the word of God in the Prophecy in the Old Testament
Based from the Bible revelations of Teacher Eraño Evangelista in the link:
http://www.thename.ph/thename/revelations/greatestdeception-en.htm
There is a Word of God about Jesus-the descendant/offspring of King David that we should know:
2 Samuel 7:12-14 (NIV)
12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. WHEN HE DOES WRONG, I WILL PUNISH HIM WITH A ROD WIELDED BY MEN, WITH FLOGGINGS INFLICTED BY HUMAN HANDS
In the said verses: 2 Samuel 7:12-14 – we can read that God speaks of a coming offspring of David and not a literal "son of God" as what the religions preach.
Is it really true that Jesus was a descendant of David?
…to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. Luke 1:27 (NIV)
Jesus' true father is Joseph who belongs to the house of David. So if we are to believe the teaching of the religions that Jesus is the “son of God,” then it should be Mary who should belong to the house of David.
And in:
You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.
Luke 1:31 (NIV)
And who was Jesus' father?
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David. Luke 1:32 (NIV)
"will be called" – As you have read it, Jesus was only a son or a descendant of David not a real son of God;" he was just a man.
Is it true that Jesus is a son of David? Let us read in:
A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham- Matt 1:1(NIV)
Now we can see that the prophecy in 2 Sam7:12-14 about a coming descendant of David and not a son of God has been fulfilled.
Considering the prophecy in II Samuel 7:12-14 that if the descendant of David commits a wrong or an iniquity, he will be punished with the rod of men. Was Jesus-the descendant of King David punished by the rod and floggings of men?
All the people answered, "Let his blood be on us and on our children!" Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified. Matthew 27:25-26 (NIV)
Indeed, Jesus was flogged by men which when we read again what God stated in the prophecy in 2 Sam 7:14: “I will be his father, and he will be my son. WHEN HE DOES WRONG, I WILL PUNISH HIM WITH A ROD WIELDED BY MEN, WITH FLOGGINGS INFLICTED BY HUMAN HANDS”
We can discover for ourselves that based on what God said in the prophecy that the real reason why He allowed Jesus -the descendant of king David to be beaten by men was not for our sins but for his (Jesus) own wrongdoing.
It appears now that the Apostles-the writers of the New Testament who claimed that Jesus was sent by God to be beaten for our sins were hiding from us what really happened to Jesus. Worse than that, the apostles made us worship Jesus -who in reality was punished by God for his own wrongdoing!
How will God hear our plea of peace and salvation if we worship the one whom He has punished! We are indeed cursed as written in Deut.11:28 because we worship a false god made by the apostles. It is a shame that we even question God why we are suffering today.
The truth is we allowed ourselves to be deceived by the teachings of the apostles! The pastors would say it was King Solomon who was prophesied in 2 Samuel 7:12-14 but he wasn't flogged by men when he committed sin against God. It was Jesus -the offspring of David - who was flogged and beaten by the rod of men. Isaiah 53 was never a prophecy about Jesus but a recollection of what Moses did, for Moses was the man to whom God revealed His Arm of Power(Exo.32:11) Read this link: http://www.thename.ph/thename/revelations/suffvant-en.html.
Since the religions made us worship Jesus who- as based on God’s word in the prophecy in 2 Samuel 7:12-14 was punished by God for his own wrongdoing and not for our sins as the apostles claim, it is clear that we were taught by the religions an erroneous teaching about God. This is why God does not hear the prayer of the peoples of the world for peace but continues to let mankind suffer from all these wars and disasters because they are calling on a false god made by the apostles.
To know what wrongdoings Jesus had done which the apostles had hidden from us- kindly read this link: http://www.thename.ph/thename/revelations/greatestdeception-en.htm
THIS IS THE GREATEST EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT THE RELIGIONS ESPECIALLY THE CHURCH AS THE GREATEST CRIMINALS OF ALL TIME FOR THEY MADE MANKIND BELIEVE THEIR TEACHING ABOUT JESUS AS A SAVIOUR WHEN WE CAN READ IN THE BIBLE THAT HE WAS PUNISHED BY GOD- THEY MADE PEOPLE WORSHIP A MAN WHO WAS PUNISHED BY GOD!!!
I look forward to the day when your organization will use the revelations in www.thename.ph and make the whole world know through your influence in the Media as the POWERFUL evidence that will imprison these Church leaders-the false teachers of God's word.
Thank you.
angela Botha February 13, 2013 2:17 am (Pacific time)
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